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schroeder2: Okay then! My wife is in Vancouver WA this I guess I'll just distract myself too;-)
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:56:17 PM

nobska: Well I'm not changing what I'm doing now, they're winning. I'm too superstitious.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:47:53 PM

Smyttie: I'm thinking that Gaborik guy might just be a keeper. Possibly.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:44:04 PM

vbing: Hmm, I guess it's TT's birthday today. Ice cream for everyone!
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:42:13 PM

vbing: And this ... Rule 76: When stoppage occurs between the end face-off spots and near end of the rink, the puck shall be faced-off at the end face-off spot on the side where the stoppage occurs unless otherwise expressly provided by these rules.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:35:10 PM

vbing: 72.2 Hand Pass – When a hand pass has been initiated by one player to a teammate and the teammate elects not to play the puck to avoid the stoppage of play, and the opposing team also abstains from playing the puck (perhaps to allow time to expire on a penalty), the Referee shall stop the play and order the resulting face-off at the nearest face-off location to where the play was stopped for this violation.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:31:14 PM

vbing: Lewis hesitated before he touched the puck. He knew what he was doing. I just have to assume the official told him he had to move the puck.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:29:16 PM

Elsu: Take a hard look @ the Kings now! What a fighter team!
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:27:47 PM

esaki: God Williams is just the best.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:17:49 PM

esaki: These announcers I swear
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:02:39 PM

stephan: Soft fucking goals
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:00:12 PM

esaki: Whenever the chips are down, and the breaks are running against you, you can always count on Raffi Torres taking a ridiculous boarding penalty in his offensive zone.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 5:50:11 PM

schroeder2: 17 shots against in the first... Try harder to get me that bong!!!
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 5:47:43 PM

kingleberry: Dude better be careful where he points that otherwise he. Might get high sticker from behind ;)
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 5:36:54 PM

esaki: They aren't going to give a offensive zone faceoff on a power play when the guy commits a hand pass. Don't be contrarian.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 5:34:44 PM

stephan: Yeah demoralizing
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 5:31:26 PM

norcojim: I think we are looking at a tired hockey team. We are lucky to be tied!
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 5:31:23 PM

naturallawyer: Another bad bounce. Wasted a whole lot of effort, tied again and SJ will probably dominate the second period again.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 5:30:59 PM

stephan: vV has been battling the puck a lot in the D zone
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 5:28:52 PM

kingleberry: Well, that was almost a great period by the Kings. You know, except for the goal they let in with 10 seconds left
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 5:28:11 PM

esaki: No way. You don't punish the non-offending team there. They would've blown the whistle if he hadn't played it, but the faceoff would have come out. Total brain lock.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 5:16:50 PM

vbing: I thought the same thing but it is possible that the ref told him yo play it. They probably would put the faceoff back in the Kings zone if he didn't touch it anyways.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 5:07:44 PM

esaki: How fucking stupid do you have to be to not realize that was a hand pass and you'd get a faceoff outside of the zone? Who was the idiot on that, Brown or Lewis? Good grief.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 4:59:00 PM

stephan: This year's game intro at staples was the best one so far and opened my heart big time..
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 4:33:27 PM

ericd: Whatever... But its agreed that we need a good stay at home defenseman...
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 4:24:20 PM

esaki: Karlsson is probably the worst defensive defenseman in hockey. He makes Mike Green look like Chris Pronger.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 2:18:23 PM

vbing: Once again, those are all offensive dmen. We already have DD, Muzz, Voynov. We need tough defensive guys, not a guy like Karlsson who is great on the offense, but plays smaller than Voynov in his own end (although I have to say that I was impressed by Voynov's toughness in the last game). it was interesting to hear on Sirius that the Kings have young dmen and old dmen - they need a guy in the middle. It's also interesting to note that the offensive guys are the young ones and the defensive guys are the old guys. Is it any wonder we are giving up a million goals to the Sharks?
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 2:08:46 PM

Grinder: Williams has been awful with seemingly more turnovers than normal. Couple that with his slow backcheck and he was due for a demotion. Is Brown going to step up tonight at his natural position? I hope so.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 1:56:28 PM

schroeder2: Spewed have a way with words!! And I'm wondering if you meant spliffy? Don't bogart that joint my friend:-)
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 1:46:00 PM

ericd: What do you make of this?...
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 11:54:13 AM

ericd: Well... for starters each of these guys is pulling a regular NHL shift, which is more than you can say for Tuebert... and are you telling me you wouldn't want Karlsson? IIRC he has been in Norris discussions reasonably recently, and looking at his stats it seems he is an OK defender... I think Carlson is fairly solid as well... DelZotto OK he is up and down but even if we had Carlson/Del Zotto they could be trade chips...
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 11:50:48 AM

azking: Brown would fetch us a good return. I doubt that he becomes more than what he is which is a 2nd-3rd line guy. He doesn't show up enough for me to be a Captain.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 11:38:57 AM

lowdrive: Not to mention relying on Matt Greene who may be great in the room but is slow as fuck and sitting Martinez who generates offense every game he plays.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 10:25:29 AM

5-Hole: yeah...trying to keep the team together after winning the Cup was OK, but trying to do it for a second year was a mistake. they should have had a top-6 spot for Toffoli, rather than play with his confidence by sending him down, moving him around different lines, scratching him etc. He really hasn't progressed much from last year, but if he had been playing all season I think he would be confident and be playing well. (as it was he outplayed both Richards and Brown)
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 9:52:50 AM

htxt: Extra Skater makes the case for Kopitar (Selke is at the bottom)
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 8:29:12 AM

esaki: Well, my Cubs suck, my Kings are going to get swept tonight, and the stupid ass grannymuggers are going to win the EPL. Nice 2014 so far.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 8:20:17 AM

ian22: Kopitar named Selke finalist along with Bergeron and Toews.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 7:43:03 AM

azking: This team needs to get younger and hungrier at the top. One good Dman who plays tough stay at home is critical for this team philosophy. I would overpay for that.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:58:35 AM

Smyttie: I agree that the Kings are not playing good D; but they also need higher QUALITY offense. With Brown and Richards playing like crap, and the rookies not truly top-6 worthy yet, that leaves the Kings with 4 top 6 forwards, at most. It could be argued that Williams is trailing off as well.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 6:25:19 AM

vbing: Why, the Kings have no use for more offensive dmen, they need some guys that can man up and play tough defense. They aren't behind because of a lack of offence, it's because they aren't playing good d.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 4:53:31 AM

azking: I like what Helene Elliot said in her column yesterday because some of it was said here. The Kings essentially did nothing to get better last Summer while all the teams around us did a lot. Here are the fruits of your lazy Summer, Dean. She also said this team is basically stale and needs an overhaul. If the Kings are going to be more than a one-year wonder, they need to make some bold moves over the Summer instead of sitting around. Our competition will be working. Being content is death in sports.
Thursday Apr 24, 2014 - 4:31:36 AM

naturallawyer: Just noting that the "1" in 13-1 is the Kings. :-(
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 8:08:11 PM

stephan: were you thinking miracle?
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 7:12:07 PM

stephan: Kane in OT...again
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 6:49:44 PM

naturallawyer: Hawks score in OT. That series looks like it's going 7.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 6:45:15 PM

ericd: Awesome... go the Bugs... even if Thud is on their blueline... Man, I could have got virtually any odds if I said that JJ would be playing playoff hockey longer than the Kings (it looks that way right now anyway...)
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 5:21:11 PM

naturallawyer: Stars in six.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 4:50:47 PM

naturallawyer: They chased Andersen.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 4:21:02 PM

naturallawyer: Go stars go.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 4:19:58 PM

naturallawyer: Who would you rather have in this first round, Quick or MAF?
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 4:02:20 PM

Grinder: Wow, and here we sometimes complain about Quick's puckhandling mistakes. Fleury is making Quick look good after he misplayed a puck to allow the tying goal with about 22 seconds left.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 3:41:51 PM

ericd: I have... many times... and Karlsson (especially...), or Carlson, or even Del Zotto would have been just fine with that #13 pick...
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 3:16:50 PM

naturallawyer: ducks are up 2-0. I hate the Pacific Division playoff bracket this year.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 2:45:10 PM

stephan: f the stars and their stupid stars chant during anthem...
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 2:45:01 PM

sneak: and those nameless Sharks D-men ALWAYS box out; protecting the crease.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 2:12:46 PM

naturallawyer: Getzlaf is out tonight. Wow. Stars have to win that game or they're screwed.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 2:02:25 PM

esaki: So what's the lesson? What's wrong with Scuderi, Regehr, and to a slightly lesser extent, Mitchell? What's wrong is that they're old and beat up, so their reaction time isn't as great and they're slow as molasses. They make all the right reads and that covers up for a lot of mistakes, but they get found out against the good teams. If the Kings are going to replace these guys, they need to find somebody in the right age bracket. Look at the Sharks defensemen -- Vlasic is good but no Doughty, and they don't have anyone else with Voynov's pure talent, but they have a bunch of random steady guys who can skate and don't screw up and don't take lazy penalties. That's more important than playing physically or on edge. The Kings need like two of those guys to go with what they have.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 1:23:42 PM

vbing: Exactly. Kings fans pining for Scuderi are as guilty of living in the past as Flyer fans wanting Richards back ...
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 11:54:09 AM

Grinder: That's because of the liberal pot usage in Colorado. :-P
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 10:15:23 AM

naturallawyer: Can't stand Avs fans but the Avs are really fun to watch. Those kids have skills. But the first priority: anyone but anaheim. I'd also hate to see San Jose get anything. If you're into the whole "they've suffered enough" thing, the Blues fans are good candidates to get their first cup. And they weren't too belligerent when I visited, unlike SJ fans.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 9:38:34 AM

ian22: Good point. I can't help but think letting Scuderi go was a huge mistake. Yes, they have Mitchell and now Regehr, but I think the Kings lost a lot on the defensive D-man front after winning The Cup.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 7:24:14 AM

esaki: FWIW, whenever I have watched a Kings-Winnipeg game with Winnipeg announcers, they talk about Richards as a "local kid." You may be right in theory but I think the spin will be that he is coming home.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 7:21:56 AM

vbing: Btw, although Kenora & Winnipeg are close geographically, as an Ontario boy, he would hardly be considered a hometown boy. Plus, Richards hasn't turned out to be an outdoorsy-type, he enjoys urban life and likes cities. That said, other than the weather, Winnipeg is a pretty decent city (thanks to potash) and Richards is still considered to be a major player due to his Team Canada performances. I think a deal with the Jets could get done.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 6:30:50 AM

vbing: Mike Richards = Brad Richards a top 6 player who needs to learn to be a bottom 6 player and special teams specialist. Someone will still be willing to take him on, especially if the Kings take back salary. If the Kings had either Brown OR Richards, they would probably be ok, but we can't carry them both.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 6:25:59 AM

esaki: You're right in theory, but (1) Winnipeg is dumb, (2) Richards is from the area, and you know how much Canadian teams love to overpay for hometown guys, (3) the other stuff would have to be significant (a first, a higher-end prospect that may turn out to be Toffoli), and (4) we won't have to pay one hundred cents on the dollar for Kane.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 5:40:03 AM

Grinder: Considering all of the Muzzin bashing I've done this season, he has actually not been a major liability in the playoffs. He'll need to progress into a PK role soon.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 5:34:39 AM

Smyttie: Richards might as well be the "other stuff"; he's the new Scott Gomez. I think that Brown would have to be the centerpiece in anyt deal for Kane. I really believe the only way to clear the books of Richards at this point will be an amnesty buyout.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 5:31:00 AM

azking: Richards is done.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 4:39:35 AM

notko1: I don't want to harp on Hahn and Remenda, but they are embarrassing. Hayward at least keeps his cool and isn't having an orgasm on the air.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 4:25:26 AM

notko1: I really liked Mike Richards, too bad he died last year.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 4:20:06 AM

esaki: (1) Resign Gabby if at the right price. He will only get better playing a year with Kopitar. (2) Do the Evander Kane deal. It will take Richards + other stuff but you can move Carter to center, and a Kane-Carter-Toffoli second line will be the best second line in hockey. (3) Somehow acquire one stay-at-home (does not have to be physical), second pairing defenseman who Sutter can trust. Stop putting so many miles on Mitchell. (4) Either fix what's wrong with Brown, or silently shop him, perhaps to acquire (3). That is all.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 4:01:35 AM

chiboyla: Fork = stuck in them.
Wednesday Apr 23, 2014 - 3:55:51 AM

ericd: Re topic - the only thing I can see above the water and turds is the blade of a stick...
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 11:26:43 PM

naturallawyer: My dad (who doesn't follow the Kings all that closely) said he didn't have much hope going into the playoffs because of a trend he noticed: this year the Kings generally cleaned up against crappy teams and got beat by the good teams. In years past, the Kings would frustrate us by getting up for big games and winning them, only to lay eggs against the crappy teams. He said it wasn't a good sign for the playoffs that the Kings were generally getting beat by good teams. Yup.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 10:52:03 PM

Elsu: Where were the hockey gods now? Good play from both of teams, but sj was little lucky. It is hard to win 3 games against sj, but i think it is possible! Kings have to improve their play as they did from game 2 to 3. They can manage that.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 10:08:46 PM

vbing: That was a great play,but he still lost a ton of puck battles during the game. he's better than some, but that's the problem with finesse players, it's hard for them to find open ice to score goals like tonight in the playoffs.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 9:46:25 PM

Grinder: McNabb is supposedly not waiver exempt so he will have to play his way off the team.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 8:46:10 PM

vbing: I am watching some of the game now. That penalty at the end of the game by Stoll - they only showed Stoll's part of the play but at the arena, they showed the whole sequence and Couture definitely initiated the contact. Fans in the arena weren't happy with that call, but from what you saw on the telecast, it did look bad for Stoll.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 8:45:34 PM

nocloutier: right, its the anti-cup run
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 8:14:45 PM

ericd: a half inch or so on gabby shot that hit the post and we might be singing a different tune... as it is, this team has a lot of holes to fill... I hope DL can get gabby to stay on at a reasonable hit... Richards really hasn't been the same since he got monstered during last years playoffs... game 4 is now just for pride to not get swept... we will see what happens... does DS have the balls to sit JQ and let Jones have a go?... At this point what have we got to lose?...
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 8:09:12 PM

nocloutier: buyout carter sign gaborik.. that's a good first step.. then rebuild the d-corps.. Dean has already started doing that by moving delauries sp? for mccabe.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 8:02:46 PM

Grinder: The one thing that bothers me most right now is the Kings will have to improve enough to climb over Anaheim or SJ. Is that a realistic goal for next season? If not, the Kings might get bounced early in the playoffs again.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 8:02:18 PM

Grinder: I don't think the defense has been as solid as some seasons past. Maybe getting blown out will force DL to look at how this team is built and where they need to improve. They need a lot more puck skill, defensive mobility, and speed to name a few deficiencies. Not sure how much he can accomplish in one Summer, but he'd better get to work soon.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 7:55:42 PM

Grinder: Another turnover on an outlet pass. The lack of puck skills is inexcusable. This is their profession and they can't make or receive passes cleanly. I don't know how that's acceptable.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 7:45:56 PM

azking: When you are considered a Cup Final favorite and you get pole-axed in two games and lose at home to go down 0-3 that's what is probably normal. This team is showing that they are old and slow. Time for a reboot. We need more than a tweak. I would try to sign Gabby though.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 7:36:04 PM

sdguero: Hey guys, Just wanna say that the best commentary other than maybe Bob and Jim is on this site. Lots of original insights and shit. :D
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 7:27:42 PM

lowdrive: Ok so..on the bright side we get to go back to calling our coach an idiot, calling for the general manager to make dramatic changes and questioning every long term contract the team has signed.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 7:27:05 PM

mattmck: Slavs looked like a complete idiot during that sequence. Have another vodka you ass.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 7:24:24 PM

nobska: Hawks just won in OT 4-3. Kings are going to do the same.
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 7:07:49 PM

vbing: @virbing: Got to go to Shattucks/St. Marys & sign up for that embellishment course. I heard that Couture & Crosby both aced that course. #NHLplayoffs
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 7:05:51 PM

nocloutier: well said.. mike lost his fire in the belly.. something you could always rely on.. maybe they shouldnt allow guys to live on the water in the south bay
Tuesday Apr 22, 2014 - 7:04:51 PM