kingscast: Players limited ability.
Sunday Feb 05, 2012 - 8:52:08 AM
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Word: This just in: “That is not an opinion — that’s science,” Kings GM Dean Lombardi testified at the Scopes Trial.
www.nypost.com
Sunday Feb 05, 2012 - 7:15:48 AM
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lowdrive: I will have you all know I scored 4 goals tonight in broomball. I am now even with Penner.
Sunday Feb 05, 2012 - 1:13:22 AM
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kingfann: FWIW, the eighth-place Wild are two points back of the Kings with a game in hand, and the ninth-place Stars are four points back of the Kings with two games in hand. The Stars have the tiebreaker over the Kings, but the Wild don't. If the Stars win both their games in hand and the Wild win their game in hand, then the Kings are in a three-way tie for seventh, which also means they're in a tie for ninth and not being in a playoff spot. They'll be placed eighth in that situation, but they're pretty close to not being in a playoff spot right now. Must-win with in Dallas at the end of this trip, but they play in Long Island the night before so they probably won't win it.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 10:21:47 PM
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NoCloutier: The Kings are a team without a single left wing anywhere in the organization... has a team ever been this devoid of lw talent from head to toe? DL believes in building from the goalie out, except he forgot to finish the job when after he got the D in place.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 9:20:41 PM
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NoCloutier: how shitty is corey crawford.. i havent watched him much live, but I had him as a fantasy goalie and he single handedly killed my season.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 9:11:59 PM
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NoCloutier: at least toewes kane and sharp and co are fun to watch.. even when losing. When's the last time you said to yourself after viewing a King's game "that was fun to watch?".. that's why this team is unusual.. it has a winning record, a playoff spot if the season ended today, yet its about the most dismal team I've ever witnessed.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 9:06:27 PM
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kingfann: notko, I understand where you're coming from. I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly don't like being negative. I wish this team was living up to expectations, I wish they were a team we could be proud to be fans of, I wish we could be looking forward to the possibilities for this team in the Spring, and I wish I could stand watching them instead of having to listen to them on another tab while surfing the web and watching TV. We're long suffering fans who after many years of futility and a long, painful rebuild, were told that this was going to be the year for the Kings, but they're dramatically underachieving, and I don't think we can be blamed for being impatient and frustrated, this franchise has provided us with enough disappointments. I understand that the season is not over and I sure hope that they turn it around, but it's not early anymore, the season is two thirds over. I just don't seem them flipping a switch and salvaging this season. I think they'll make the playoffs, but I don't know if they're going to be able to do anymore than qualify as the seventh seed and once again get eliminated in the first round, even though this team is supposed to be much better than that. I hope they prove me wrong, but they haven't provided me with any reason to believe that they will.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 8:55:30 PM
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notko1: agreed, its frustrating in so many ways
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 8:54:21 PM
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lowdrive: This is where we vent our frustrations, but ad you can see from our "drafted" dates we all come back every year and every game. We also celebrate good things that happen just as much as we grouse. You've been around. You know better :)
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 8:52:39 PM
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notko1: Has the season ended?
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 8:34:26 PM
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pucknfuss: You wanna see a homer broadcast team, it is Detroit's right.now
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 8:17:56 PM
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NoCloutier: This has nothing to do with loser this loser that.. this has to do with reality. Wise GMs know what do in a given situation. Given the way the team congealed, it is not ready to make a run from what I see. At the bare minimum, i would like DL to stand pat. I do not want to see the team give up assets on a prayer for this year.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 8:15:31 PM
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kingfann: The problem is they've been playing like this the whole year, and the season is two thirds over. Do you expect them to just magically flip a switch at some point?
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 8:14:17 PM
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azking: Loser franchise, loser mentality
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 8:06:36 PM
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notko1: There 7th in the west, they suck right now but there is a lot of hockey left in this year
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 8:04:27 PM
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pucknfuss: God, we are talking about next year again. What a loser mentality, always next year. Might ad well be a cubs fan
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 7:56:14 PM
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NoCloutier: JW is playing great now, putting up numbers. Someone would salivate for him the way he is playing.. we could get some decent assets. Sell high buy low baby.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 7:51:22 PM
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Grinder: I don't think any team is dumb enough to trade for Matt Greene. He's a bigger liability than an asset. Slow afoot, ices the puck often, hands of stone, etc.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 7:46:21 PM
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NoCloutier: gagner with 2 more goals tonite
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 7:43:12 PM
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NoCloutier: exactly.. get some valuable assets we can turn into a scorer when the opportunity presents itself. Picks and young talent. The Kings have 1 pro prospect winger in their entire system (tofolli). Time to rebuild the offense down there. This team is going nowhere with current vets.. dump them for assets..do a minor rebuild... easier to get young scorers to fill around seasoned and talented defense and goalies... shoot for next year and beyond.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 7:41:32 PM
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azking: Need to get some picks for guys they can dump. Don't want filler back.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 7:35:38 PM
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NoCloutier: This team has some great assets. The right mind would know how to move a few pieces around to have a contender next year. Someone who values speed and skill a little more. I believe the Kings should be sellers at the deadline unless something freakishly good presents itself (it wont). e.g. they could dump Stoll to a team in need of faceoff wins. I keep hearing JJ name as someone they would move.. I say no way to that.. he's got speed and hands -- and that is in short supply on this team. I dont care that he isnt the best defender.. that is not an issue with the right pairing. I wouldnt hesitate to move Brown or Williams for the right deal.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 7:16:43 PM
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azking: Lombardi should be getting nervous. He spent a lot of money and made big moves to construct this shitty team.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 7:02:14 PM
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kingfan_98: apples to oranges. arsenal are actually a good team performing to expectations.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 6:41:01 PM
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lowdrive: MSL with a hat trick tonight.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 6:28:51 PM
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lowdrive: Well, a lot of the house cleaning will occur at the end of the season assuming they just let these tools walk.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 6:24:35 PM
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Grinder: I wouldn't even sign Penner for $600K next season. Hit the road you waste of a roster spot.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 6:24:30 PM
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NoCloutier: They have thoroughly ripped off the fans.. feel bad for the season ticket holders.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 6:15:22 PM
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Grinder: When the season schedule was published, I considered attending the n2 games in Florida on this roadtrip. I'm glad I didn't book it now! :-(
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 6:08:21 PM
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NoCloutier: how is that i always used to looked forward to King's games even when they were atrocious, yet this year when they supposedly are ready to make a run, i barely make an effort to tune in let alone go to a game.. very odd phenomenon.. I think the moral to the story is that winning isnt everything, style points are also very important... The Kings are about the least entertaining sports team Ive ever witnessed.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 6:07:01 PM
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lowdrive: I am playing broomball tonight. I suspect I will score more goals than the Kings.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:59:35 PM
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lowdrive: The following players had zero shots on goal tonight: Dustin Brown, Dustin Penner, Trent Hunter, Brad Richardson and Jack Johnson. Penner was also credited with zero hits.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:44:23 PM
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kingfann: Waiting for my friend to pick me up, so although I didn't watch the end, unfortunately I decided to check and see what the score was. I know they were playing their second game in less than 24 hours... But ugh. They lost too many easy games, they have to make up for it by winning games when they're tired. One goal against the worst team in the East. Pathetic. They basically need to win the remaining four games on this trip.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:43:52 PM
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naturallawyer: The Kings, not the pizza rolls...
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:41:55 PM
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lowdrive: Helene Elliott @helenenothelen
That's it in Carolina: Canes 2, Kings 1. Kings lose first two of 6-game trip. One goal in 2 games. Yo, Dean...u need scoring.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:40:23 PM
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lowdrive: I'd still love to see MSL here.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:39:39 PM
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jlium: We have been through two coaches, several high draft picks and many middle level picks, several "big trades" and this is all we have to show for it! I think the answer is very obvious and the sooner it gets fixed we can start the next rebuild as this them is beyond tweaking.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:32:44 PM
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lowdrive: They are not. Pizza rolls are good.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:29:57 PM
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nocloutier: Whats going on.. Went to dinner.. Im guessing they b choking
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:29:22 PM
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lowdrive: BTW, I do feel better after I ate my pizza rolls. I highly recommend them.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:24:15 PM
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Word: hello. i am a kings fan.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:24:07 PM
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lowdrive: See my rant from earlier re: pizza rolls.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:22:18 PM
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naturallawyer: Why do I subject myself to this?
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:21:32 PM
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lowdrive: And we're under 4 minutes. time to get Hunter some extra minutes!
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:18:57 PM
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kingfann: Enough of this. I'm gonna go play shinny again.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:15:49 PM
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lowdrive: replace "now" with "ever"
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:14:57 PM
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jlium: The Kings are really boring they do not he get close to scoring. I have the game on but it is more like a radio because I am only listening as I do other things. Pretty expensive HD radio I have.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:12:19 PM
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lowdrive: It's times like these when I question why I am a fan of any sports team. I mean, it's a bunch of guys that weren't born in LA, didn't grow up in LA, are free to leave to play elsewhere, playing a game that really has no bearing on my life one way or another. Very few people I know give a damn how they do, they never come up in casual conversation. Yet here I am feeling anger at how badly they are sucking tonight and this season. It really makes no sense. So, I turn to you, pizza rolls, to make everything better.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:12:13 PM
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kingfann: Biggest bunch of underachievers in the league. They're pathetic.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:07:10 PM
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lowdrive: Couldn't handle looking at Troy Murphy's nose. Back to watch Loktionov not score.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:06:40 PM
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kingfan_98: shit like that is why i just can no longer get exited about the kings
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:05:37 PM
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kingfann: Where's Penner? Where's Kopitar? Where's Richards? Where's Doughty? Where's Johnson? Where's Brown? Where's Williams? Where are all of these times every time we need a goal?
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:04:23 PM
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kingfann: I know they stink anyways, but I partially blame the schedule. You just can't ask a team to play less than 24 hours after they just played in another timezone. They probably got to their hotel at 3 last night.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:02:27 PM
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lowdrive: Switching over to the Laker game. Let me know if anything good happens.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 5:00:35 PM
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kingfann: Game over
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:57:12 PM
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lowdrive: Bernie Nichols looks just like Fred Armisen.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:54:21 PM
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lowdrive: Nice. But, railroad tracks.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:50:39 PM
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NoCloutier: this team needs a truckload of viagra
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:47:38 PM
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kingscast: Hey boys, anyone got a link for the game? Just walking in.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:46:44 PM
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lowdrive: In my other fantasy hockey league, my strategy has been to pick up whatever goalie is playing the Kings. Working well so far.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:44:24 PM
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kingfann: So the faceoff's in Carolina's end, and there's 15 seconds left in the period. Let's put our best forwards out there and see if we can take the lead into the third period... or the fourth line can be out there, I guess.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:37:16 PM
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kingfann: Greene's not having a night to write home about.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:31:52 PM
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kingfann: Ugh, Richards couldn't bury on that 2-on-1.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:30:39 PM
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lowdrive: Hey look, another game where the Kings dominate the whole game, can't put away numerous great scoring chances, and are tied with an inferior team. We could just pre-write this crap.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:29:34 PM
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kingfann: That's just bad luck (what else is new). A shot hits a shinpad and the 'Canes get a breakaway. Sigh... There goes Bernier's shutout. Now we're back to needing a goal. Not good.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:29:21 PM
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kingfann: I think esaki feels the Kings need more of a playmaker to get the other guys going, rather than a sniper.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:27:42 PM
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azking: What exactly does Hemsky do well other than get hurt? He gets a lot of assists but how does that help us? We need a guy to pot goals. He had a whopping 14 last year.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:19:41 PM
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kingfann: I can hear esaki banging his head on a wall after reading that from here.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:16:40 PM
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kingfann: I wonder if the boys are gonna do anything else on offense or if they're really gonna make Bernie earn this one.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:14:49 PM
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azking: Hemsky isn't a sniper. Guy can't even get 20 goals in a year. He gets tons of assists. No thanks
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:14:25 PM
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lowdrive: I'm not so sure. Does Hemsky have frosted tips? Does he go to MMA fights and bang over the hill models? What is his stance on Glee? What hair products does he use?
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:09:51 PM
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kingfann: After the Smyth shenanigans and the way the Penner trade turned out...
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:08:50 PM
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esaki: Here comes the league's best power play since the all-star break!!!!! (i think)
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:03:51 PM
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lowdrive: Ok. I mean, I've heard plenty of stories about the Kings in the 90s and coke (given that anyone with any money was doing it back then) but never anything confirmed or that I particularly cared about. I mean, I don't care if a guy dresses up like Pocahantas and is a furry as long as they score 25-30 goals and season and save me from the boredom that has become LA Kings hockey.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:03:41 PM
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esaki: I'll tell you at a game sometime. Chicago bars are more about drinkin'.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 4:00:08 PM
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stephan: I "only" have Nick and Daryl today, but it's still fun!
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:59:44 PM
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kingfann: never mind
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:43:10 PM
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kingfann: Damn, Cliffy got body slammed
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:42:03 PM
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kingfann: Bernier looks sharp so far for a guy who hasn't played in a month.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:39:57 PM
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kingfann: Great save Bernier!
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:37:48 PM
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lowdrive: Got any sources or support for your accusations that Richards and carter did drugs together? I assume youre going to say you saw them in a Chicago bar or something?
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:32:25 PM
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kingfann: Gotta kill this...
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:31:48 PM
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kingfann: Yeah, it's much tougher to deal with the Blues forcheck.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:28:03 PM
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nobska: I know they air different things in the states and Canada, but you never know. I am stuck watching it as Bob and Jim are blacked out on Center Ice.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:19:21 PM
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kingfann: The NHL Network up here in Toronto is just showing NHL on the Fly. I think it's on just in the States. Kopi!
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:16:15 PM
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nobska: Kf: game is on NHL network with HNIC. Can you not get that?
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:13:00 PM
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kingfann: Thanks. Doesn't seem like it's very far behind.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:11:35 PM
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kingfann: He was actually really good the first few games he came back, but he's been really struggling since the new year.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 3:09:18 PM
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Grinder: It sucks that Vancouver defeated Colorado via shootout earlier today. Another Western 3-point game making it more difficult to make up ground in the standings. :-(
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 2:52:36 PM
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Scribe: I have to wonder if Richards is still suffering from his concussion, or if he has another injury that he's hiding. He hasn't been anywhere close to the player he was before the concussion. In fact, he has really sucked since then.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 2:33:32 PM
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Grinder: Kovi's Howe Trick highlights including fight with Schenn.
video.nhl.com
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 1:56:24 PM
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pucknfuss: DD is like JJ. They both only show up when they feel like it.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 12:55:51 PM
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notko1: Kovalchuk KO'd Schenn in a fight earlier today
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 12:34:07 PM
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Grinder: esaki: You stated the reason I have a problem with DD. He's not playing up to his $7M salary. He's making tape-to-tape passes to the other team on a nightly basis and I don't see him skating hard. He's capable of so much more. We witnessed it during his Norris nomination season. Hold out and this is what you deliver after signing the big money deal? That's why I'm down on him. He is still young, but he needs to deliver more consistently.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 12:25:39 PM
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azking: This team showed last night why they aren't any good
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 12:21:28 PM
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ericd: esaki, FWIW I just dont think Penner will ever play up to his 'number' in LA... That said, the other points re guys not playing to their capacity/capability are true...
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 12:11:06 PM
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kingfann: The Flyers were losing 6-2 to the Devils today, so Zac Rinaldo slewfooted Zach Parise after a whistle which led to some rough stuff in Philly. What a prick, he should get a nice suspension
www.hockeyfights.com
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 12:09:57 PM
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esaki: Just so I'm clear. You are in favor of adding Mike Richards' coke buddy to this team. That's what you think this team needs. Ok.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 12:05:09 PM
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kingfann: Richards doesn't even have anyone to work with on the second line, you think Carter (or whichever one of him, Richards and Kopitar gets put on the third line) is going to be successful playing with Richardson and Lewis? I think Carter's played wing in the past, so that would make me more open to the trade. You have a point, we could use a center for the third line, but that center is going to be doing it all by himself, like Richards has been having to do on the second line, and we've seen how that's working out.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 10:58:09 AM
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nobska: Loving this 2012 Budweiser Official Big Game Commercial.
www.youtube.com
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 10:51:00 AM
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lowdrive: The numbers just don't support that he's stoll-like. going backwards he had 36,33,46 and 29 goals. On a good team. As far as not needing a center, have you been watching Loktionov hold down the 3rd line center role? Adding a goal scoring talent would be huge, regardless of whether it's a center or not. Guy simply puts pucks in the net. This year in only 31 games he would be the Kings 3rd leading goal scorer. Whatever. It's a moot point. Kings aren't going to get him.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 10:48:40 AM
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kingfann: FWIW, I don't get where that stereotype that Kovalchuk is a selfish jerk came from, other than when he was being all silly about his contract demands two years ago (which doesn't mean he's a selfish jerk). David Clarkson recently went out of his way to praise Kovalchuk as being one of the best teammates he's ever played with, but people are going to think what they want to think I suppose. As far as Carter goes, I don't care about his supposedly poor attitude and character, or that he wants out of Columbus. I'm also not worried that he's having a bad season. He's had injuries, he has no one to play with in Columbus and I'm sure he's incredibly unmotivated. Carter's a good player, a 30+ goal scorer in the right situation. Why I don't want him, though, is because he's a center, which we don't need, I don't want him because he has a terrible contract, and don't want him because most Flyers fans seemed happy to see him go and said he was incredibly unclutch and it sounded like had a tendency for missing the net about as bad as Stoll.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 10:40:20 AM
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lowdrive: I think he said something like "that kind of player" but he said it after the fact so he might have said "fucking douchebag." I don't recall.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 10:38:03 AM
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kingfann: Did he actually say when they were going after Kovalchuk that they weren't concerned about adding a selfish jerk? Hmm, I wonder why Kovy didn't wanna sign here :P
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 10:29:35 AM
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lowdrive: Jeff Carter seems like exactly the kind of player this team does need. A selfish dink who just scores goals. It has been reported by people who cover the team and are around the team, including DL, that they're not concerned about adding a selfish jerk to the team because of the stability in the room. DL said that when they made the run at Kovalchuk. Just look at Carter's numbers. Is he a perfect player? No. If he was, he probably wouldn't be available - if he even is available now.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 10:26:15 AM
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kingfann: I can't remember how many games the Kings have lost only by one goal this season despite scoring fewer than two goals in many of them, but I think the number's pretty high. If this team had even a little bit more offense, I think they'd be in much better shape. Are they going to win the Cup this year, even if they do add some offense? No, but this team hasn't won a playoff series since 2001 so I will be happy with this season as long as they can do that. They have turned on the offense in the playoffs in the last two years, but they weren't nearly this bad at scoring in the last two regular seasons as they are this year, so I find it hard to believe that all of these players who are underachieving so much will just flip a switch in the playoffs. I agree, don't give up a lot for a rental in a year where probably the best this team can do is win one round, but absolutely trade for someone if the price is right. I know he's been awful this year and he can't stay healthy, but I've started to warm to the idea of Ales Hemsky. I'd have to imagine he'd come pretty cheap at this point, and perhaps a change of scenery will be good for him. Maybe he can get his old teammate Penner as well as some of these other underachievers going.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 9:56:25 AM
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esaki: Absolutely. They have a streaky goaltender. They have talented guys. They've shown no issue with generating offense in the playoffs the past two years, since the increase in tempo tends to focus them a bit. There's no reason why this team can't go on a run in the playoffs as currently built.
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 9:38:43 AM
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Word: A report out of New York City suggested Smyth would be prepared to waive his no-movement clause to enable a trade to the first-place Rangers.
Which certainly was news to Smyth.
www.edmontonjournal.com
Saturday Feb 04, 2012 - 6:35:50 AM
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ericd: The proviso is that if he does a deal with JB in it, it has to be a serious, in their prime name (that isnt Carter...)
Friday Feb 03, 2012 - 10:50:16 PM
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