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Grinder: lowdrive: Time to get the booing restarted!
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:36:09 PM
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Grinder: Actually, it was kind of shocking when Kariya suddenly regained consciousness post-hit.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:32:50 PM
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Grinder: I wonder what kind of spin Hayward will put on this game considering the BJs played in a (lopsided) game last night...
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:32:12 PM
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kingfan_98: 
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:31:50 PM
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Grinder: kf_98: That's one of my all-time favorite photos.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:30:13 PM
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kingfan_98: grinder: i have that one, and the paula kariya unconscious at center ice from the playoffs. i've had more than comment about that one...
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:29:55 PM
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Grinder: kf_98: That's a photo I had posted in my cubicle at my previous job. :-)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:29:05 PM
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kingfan_98: ld: takes longer than that. my gf knows ;-)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:29:01 PM
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Grinder: Oh, this past Saturday? Nice final score. :-)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:28:35 PM
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lowdrive: Grinder: I'm back already. And yes, I did see the cameras. They're mounted on trucks. I guess we'll find out if they picked us up in the next week or so =)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:27:51 PM
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kingfan_98: for grinder: 
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:27:49 PM
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Grinder: EN H. Sedin goal! 6-4!
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:27:00 PM
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Grinder: ld: If you're driving there, watch out for those photo enforcement speeding cameras in Arizona.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:25:08 PM
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lowdrive: grinder: No, but I lead the boos when I was in Phoenix on Saturday. =) Got the entire upper middle section booing Getzlaf whenever he touched the puck. They didn't quite know why, but some crazy guy in a Doughty jersey was doing it so they joined in.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:23:40 PM
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Grinder: Avs on the verge of losing in regulation to the Canucks after leading 3-0 after the 1st.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:23:33 PM
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kingfan_98: heh. hiller benched.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:23:30 PM
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kingfan_98: hahahaha. 3-nil. suck it, quackaddicts
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:22:48 PM
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Grinder: Oh, and beat up that 'tard that they always show in the stands after the Ducks score. :-)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:22:42 PM
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naturallawyer: 3-0 BJs!!!! I love it!!!
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:22:29 PM
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Grinder: ld: Are you leading the chorus of boos? Give Wild Wing "a light" for me. ;-)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:21:48 PM
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lowdrive: grinder: Why would the dux fans boo me? They have joined me! Booing the dux is contagious.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:18:58 PM
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naturallawyer: Yes, I remember us arguing about MPS or MSP or whatever his name was.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:18:16 PM
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Grinder: kf_98: By this time last season, the draft dicussion had been going for about 2 months.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:17:34 PM
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kingfan_98: grinder: i certainly am not complaining. i love it that we aren't already discussing the draft
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:15:44 PM
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kingfan_98: and not only will the kings be drafting low, but the dicks - despite playing so poorly - are actually in 20th, so they will not qualify for a lotto pick at least.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:15:17 PM
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naturallawyer: Woop. Dux losing 2-0. :-)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:12:20 PM
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Grinder: kf_98: No doubt the Kings won't be drafting very early this Summer, but it's a nice problem to have. :-)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:10:39 PM
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kingfan_98: cumulative league standings here:
espn.go.com
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:05:39 PM
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kingfan_98: we aren't gonna be anywhere near even sniffing an impact player in this year's draft. we've actually got the 7th best record in the league, with a game in hand on two of the three teams immediately ahead of us. how sick is that?
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 7:05:05 PM
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Grinder: schroeder2 will like the prospect rankings from this mid-February article.
www.usatoday.com
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 6:58:34 PM
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Grinder: NL: Are you sure they weren't booing lowdrive? ;-)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 6:54:33 PM
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naturallawyer: Dux leave the ice to a chorus of boos after the first period. :-)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 6:41:15 PM
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naturallawyer: LOL, BJs up on the dux 1-0. If the dux lose tonight, I think they are pretty much done. Way too many teams ahead of them, and not all of them will just fold down the stretch.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 6:35:28 PM
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kingfan_98: in other news, some lucky kid wins the lotto, but noooooooo, some chick has to go and mess it all up:
latimesblogs.latimes.com
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 6:22:45 PM
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kingsrule: The Norris is supposed to be the best all around defenseman. That means the winner should be at the very least top 5 in scoring in my mind, not simply the leading scorer. Looking at the top 5 its hard not to think Keith, Doughty or ultra-prick Chris Pronger more deserving in my mind.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 4:32:36 PM
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lowdrive: great interview with Doughty. Glad to hear he bought a house here. =)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 3:43:51 PM
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kingsforlife: lowdrive: I guess we'll have to settle for what we have because there is no perfect science to this determination. It's probably a mix of both stats and subjective analysis, which does have its bias (e.g., east coast bias, backing a particular player because he plays for a voter's home town, or voting for a guy because he has a good track record even though he may suck now *cough* Niedermayer *cough*).
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 3:32:43 PM
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lowdrive: I don't follow. Are you implying that the scouting department doesn't look at statistics? I don't think anyone, me especially, has said there is no room for subjectivity and judgment calls. When you're talking about an award for "best" of anything, and you base it on subjective measures, you can expect subjective bias to play a large part.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 3:26:50 PM
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esaki: Then we should fire our scouting department.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 3:06:49 PM
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lowdrive: the problem with "i know it when I see it" is that it opens itself to bias and politics.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 3:00:09 PM
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naturallawyer: According to DD, the story that JJ wasn't returning his text messages was a complete fabrication.
www.lakingsnetwork.com
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 2:51:46 PM
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kingsforlife: The "I know it when I see it" approach is certainly the best approach. If it was purely statistical then Tobias Enstrom is better than Gonchar, Lidstrom, Niedermayer, Weber and Chara. I'm not too comfortable with that.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 2:44:59 PM
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esaki: "I know it when I see it" is good enough for me. You can argue Green over Weber, I'm fine with that.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:56:57 PM
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naturallawyer: The east-coast "know it when I see it" voters are ordinarily less likely to vote for the western conference defensemen because the games are so late. However, the Olympics did a whole lot for Doughty's viewership. The playoffs will help, too. If the voters watch the games and take quickness and hockey intelligence into account, Doughty beats Green for sure.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:53:45 PM
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lowdrive: ok, but then what measure do you use to determine who is the best defenseman? I think you're stuck with either "I know it when I see it" or you have to give it to Mike Green. Personally, I'm of the "I know it when i see it" camp but that's usually not how things turn out when it comes to awards.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:49:57 PM
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esaki: Yeah, but not the Norris. I mean, you have to have some stats, but it doesn't regularly go to the best offensive defenseman. It usually goes to a well-rounded guy like Bourque or Lidstrom.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:45:04 PM
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lowdrive: Almost every award in sports is a stats driven award.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:42:00 PM
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esaki: The same way Yzerman left him out for Canada. If it's a stat-driven award, then so be it, but Green's not a top three defenseman in the league.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:35:04 PM
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htxt: esaki: Yeah. It's mind-boggling that he could plateau at this level and be a top-five defender in this league. Lombardi keeps mentioning his conditioning level and how he can only imagine how high Doughty's ceiling will be once his fitness catches up to his talent.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:33:47 PM
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lowdrive: Canadians hold it for hockey!
thepuckdoctors.com
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:30:40 PM
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htxt: I think Green is in there, although I agree that Weber's more deserving. But those snazzy stats will get him in as a finalist.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:29:44 PM
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lowdrive: If you're looking at the #s, how do you leave Mike Green out of the top 3?
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:28:26 PM
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esaki: I mean, here's how ridiculous Doughty is. I can probably count on one hand the number of defensemen, in my lifetime, who have been the best defensemen on their team before the age of 21. And that would include a guy like Roman Hamrlik, who wasn't any great shakes at 20, but who played for an expansion team. Not only is Doughty the best on the Kings, he's easily one of the top five in the league. It's incredible. I've never seen anything like it.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:26:17 PM
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esaki: Oh, absolutely. He's a clear nominee.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:23:46 PM
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htxt: I don't think Doughty has a real shot at the Norris this year (I agree that it's going to be Duncan Keith). But the fact that he's in the conversation given his age and his team is quite nice.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:14:49 PM
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esaki: I'm guessing that means Versteeg is up for the Hart and Steve Mason is up for the Vezina, right?
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:10:19 PM
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kingsforlife: Right now, you have to think it's Keith's Norris to lose. The typical guys like Lidstrom and Chara have had off years. Green's also been injured and/or suspended a bit.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:10:16 PM
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esaki: Should be (1) Keith, (2) Doughty, (3) Weber. Just like at the Olympics.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:09:29 PM
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Scribe: I wonder if I'll get to vote on the Norris this year. Each PHWA member gets to vote on some of the awards...you don't get to vote on all of them...no idea why...
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:07:48 PM
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Scribe: htxt: Yup. And if I had to vote today, Doughty would be my choice.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:07:09 PM
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htxt: "Expect to hear the drumbeat of Drew Doughty's Norris Trophy candidacy grow. People are starting to get the picture on that guy."
sportsillustrated.cnn.com
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:05:16 PM
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Scribe: Last night, Murray basically said that Frolov has been great since the break.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 1:04:58 PM
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kingsforlife: I don't think Fro's play last night was a result of being on the opposite side of the ice. It's just convenient that it turned out that way because it makes TM look like a genius. Fro has been a monster since the Olympic break. That gives me more confidence shuffling him around because he's going to do his thing wherever he's placed.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 12:20:37 PM
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kingsforlife: esaki: Brown on the right side isn't much better. I guess we could move him to the left and he can do the Ovechkin "drag through the legs" move every time he comes down the wing, drive wide, not get a shot on goal and run into the net or end boards as that's often the end result. :)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 12:19:39 PM
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naturallawyer: It makes the most sense to put Fro back on the left (he is the most capable), but he was outstanding on the right side last night (though it was against the Blue Jackets).
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:29:45 AM
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naturallawyer: Clune-Richardson-Halpern on the 4th line would have some scoring talent and might wake Halpern up. If the Kings don't need an agitator on a given night, you can do Richardson-Halpern-Parse, or move one of the righties to the off-wing.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:28:00 AM
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esaki: Brown on the left was a total failure last year. Doesn't mean Murray won't try it again.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:25:20 AM
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schroeder2: Who were those back-checking animals in Kings uniforms? A complete 60-minute effort that I'm not used to seeing...
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:25:08 AM
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naturallawyer: k7: given the way Fro has played on the right side (and TM's willingness to experiment with lines), I wouldn't be surprised to see TM try Brown or even Simmonds on the left. Modin-Zeus-Simmonds looked great last night. TM could put Brown on the left side of the second line, then move Richardson back to the fourth line. These are nice problems to have, not wanting to move players to lower lines. Been a long time since that happened.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:24:15 AM
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kings#7: Well, I must say.. this would look Damn Good...
Smyth-Kopi-Williams; Fro-Stoll-Brown; Modin-Zues-Simm; Clune-Richardson-Halpern/Parse. NO Ivanas... wow, never thought I'd see the day.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:17:15 AM
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kings#7: I was thinking that too Scribe. I think we'll see more from Halpern, but he just doesn't look like he's been able to settle in yet. Parse and Clune have looked good around him.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:15:43 AM
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Scribe: Halpern won't be a scratch...probably Parse.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:14:12 AM
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kings#7: Would you guys be surprised to see Richardson go back to 4th line Center with Fro moving to the LW again when Williams comes back? and then Halpern a scratch??
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:10:26 AM
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kings#7: Lowdrive Funny you mention that, that was the first time all year I wasnt aggrivated at Jones all game long
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:09:27 AM
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lowdrive: Funny that the guy we got for free got a lot more ice time than the guy we actually had to give up stuff for. =) Also interesting is that Randy Jones had the second most ice time to Doughty.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:07:55 AM
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kings#7: That conditional pick is why it was a last minute trade. DL was probably like "Dude, just let us have him for free, we'll take him off your books" CBJ prob wanted more, and then DL said nah its cool, byeee.... And then right at the deadline CBJ was like fine, take em.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:07:09 AM
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kings#7: They shoulda turned into "Jack Johnson Shooting Range" adfter it was 4-0, to see if he can start getting the shots on night.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 11:04:31 AM
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esaki: They rolled three, I don't think they put the fourth line out there. The Kings basically went into "let's try a bunch of crap out and see if any of it works" mode after it was 4-0, which was the right thing to do.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 10:55:51 AM
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htxt: Weren't they just rolling their four lines during the major power play?
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 10:53:24 AM
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Scribe: But they didn't even come close during the major power play...that was lame.
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 10:43:05 AM
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lowdrive: They scored 3 power play goals..come on man..
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 10:34:38 AM
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Scribe: The Kings not scoring on their 5:00 power play last night was lowdrive's fault. :-)
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 8:54:08 AM
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Scribe: Frozen Royalty Audio and NHL Video: LA Kings Embarrass Blue Jackets, 6-0...
frozenroyalty.net
Tuesday Mar 09, 2010 - 2:28:17 AM
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Scribe: Cliff: They print those WEEKS ahead of time. At least three weeks and probably more.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 11:21:19 PM
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lowdrive: If the Kings held the jackets under 10 shots I was going to demand tacos.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 11:01:04 PM
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naturallawyer: A sign that your hockey game is going badly: the opponent has more goals than you have shots on goal. After the second period. :-)
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 10:56:03 PM
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lowdrive: Modin and Torres..and no Halpern. I was trying to get a "snowman!" chant going..but no one in the premier section was into it. frickin' snobs.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 10:47:56 PM
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naturallawyer: Funny that the lineup cards tonight still had Modin on the Blue Jackets. They really do have to update those quicker.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 10:43:46 PM
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ericd: The kings didnt get 7... its lowdrives fault...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 10:43:31 PM
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ericd: well, lets be fair here... if Modin gets the kings over the top for a cup, I'll be more than happy to pony up a 7th rounder to clodumbus (snigger...)
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 10:42:39 PM
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lowdrive: Had a great time at the game. Looks like I didn't get blamed for anything. =)
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 10:41:14 PM
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ericd: ahhh the frolov conundrum... the gordian knot of hockey... if he would always play with intensity and drive he's a dead sure 1st liner... but he just goes off with the fairies at times... I would take Kovy over Fro for that reason.. but you are right in that if Fro puts out a resasonable number DL will sign him and say weve always had our scoring wing... until he dissapears again having signed a new deal...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 10:41:06 PM
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ericd: wow what a performance... suggest that the game against the hawks will be a leeeeedle bit harder... clodumbus sucks....
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 10:37:21 PM
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naturallawyer: That was one craptacular performance by the BJs. Easiest shutout Quick will ever get. I was afraid he'd give one up in the 3rd just because he was out of rhythm from lack of work.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 10:00:08 PM
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naturallawyer: LOL @ the "condition" for the 7th rounder.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 9:58:25 PM
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Scribe: Kings have confirmed the report out of Columbus on the conditional pick for Modin.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 9:40:42 PM
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kingsforlife: Having a shitty team and an even shittier goalie on the other side doesn't hurt.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 9:37:47 PM
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stephan: i am glad foxy is back being the sidekick..:)
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 9:23:41 PM
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stephan: just watching the game...its all about attitude i guess ha?
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 9:22:32 PM
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kingfan_98: great win for the boys. take that, everyone else in the pacific division.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 9:02:30 PM
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kingsforlife: Given how Modin has been in Columbus and the way their season has gone, I can't exactly blame them for selling so low. It's not like ticket sales are booming.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:57:00 PM
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Scribe: LA: Halpern (high sticking), 16:54
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:56:51 PM
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htxt: So Williams was cleared by doctors today, as expected. Great news.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:53:21 PM
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esaki: Heh, that's a hell of a condition if true. Hilarious.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:52:52 PM
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Scribe: htxt: I've asked the Kings for confirmation...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:50:37 PM
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Scribe: LA: Modin (delay of game, puck over glass), 14:05
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:50:16 PM
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htxt: Scribe: That's interesting. I had guessed it was going to be based on games played.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:49:37 PM
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Scribe: From Twitter: RT @kingscast @Aportzline @tomba19: Dispatch has learned Kings must win Stanley Cup for #CBJ to get conditional 7th pk for Modin #lakings
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:45:28 PM
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Scribe: Make that 10 shots, not 11. Looks like they took one away.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:43:31 PM
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Scribe: Halpern got robbed.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:40:31 PM
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Scribe: Great save by Garon.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:40:12 PM
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Scribe: Killed. CBJ is now in double figures in SOG with 11.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:38:58 PM
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azking: Interesting how the Sporting News that I was reading the other day thinks Quick is the U.S. goalie of the future for the Olympics. They really like him a lot.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:37:59 PM
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kingsforlife: Whoa. Frolov's got wheels.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:37:41 PM
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Scribe: Nice burst of speed from Frolov.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:37:24 PM
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Scribe: LA: Stoll (hooking), 5:23
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:36:02 PM
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Scribe: Another penalty coming up on the Kings. They killed Frolov's penalty, though.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:35:43 PM
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Scribe: And he just took a dumb penalty.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:33:17 PM
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Scribe: LA: Frolov (tripping), 3:23
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:33:03 PM
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azking: Frolov just shows that he has all the talent in the world. A healthy, motivated Frolov is every bit as good as most of the better players in the NHL. It is that "other Frolov," which just drives you crazy.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:32:37 PM
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Scribe: azking: I think that's exactly what Lombardi is thinking based on my interview with him during the holidays.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:30:47 PM
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azking: They said Nash's lower body injury is a pulled dirtchute.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:30:15 PM
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azking: You have to wonder if Frolov gives the Kings a reasonable number to work with that they would probably just prefer to keep him since they know what he is all about. If he is asking for major cash then might as well let him go and go after a guy like Kovalchuk with that money.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:28:27 PM
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kingsforlife: Scribe: No kidding. If that guy ever gets the puck on net he might pot a few goals.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:20:21 PM
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Scribe: CBJ outshot in the second period, 12-2. Ouch.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:10:55 PM
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Scribe: KFL: I was telling people here in the press box about that, comparing him to Alexei Zhitnik. :-)
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:02:44 PM
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kingsforlife: JJ trying to break the glass, as usual. Get the damn puck on net.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:00:51 PM
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kingsforlife: Having Kopitar on this side just does not work. Not that the PP is that awesome with him on that other side. :P
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:59:46 PM
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vbing: Hmm, so this team was leading the Sharks for two periods?
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:59:22 PM
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Scribe: CBJ: Vermette (tripping), 11:56
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:58:58 PM
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kingsforlife: Frolov has 4 points. Nice.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:58:21 PM
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Scribe: KFL: yeah they're really awful tonight.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:57:52 PM
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kingsforlife: Really, CBJ only has 4 shots in 30 minutes of hockey? Damn.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:56:44 PM
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htxt: Nice to see Richardson get one. Nick and Jim were right to point out how he'd been skating really hard even though he hadn't gotten on the scoresheet yet.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:55:19 PM
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Scribe: 6. LOS ANGELES. Brad Richardson 10 (Jarret Stoll, Frolov), 9:46
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:54:59 PM
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kingfan_98: htxt: 4 points. for sure.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:54:15 PM
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htxt: Frolov is having a monster game.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:53:37 PM
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kingfan_98: *chants* snow-man! snow-man! snow-man!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:53:24 PM
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Scribe: Rick Nash is out...lower body injury...return tonight is doubtful.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:53:07 PM
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kingfan_98: richie!!!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:52:54 PM
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kingsforlife: Geez, save some for Chicago, boys.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:52:51 PM
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Scribe: Richardson!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:52:38 PM
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htxt: I'm glad they've put Scuderi and Doughty back together. Until they get a reliable third puck-moving defenseman they can't afford to put Doughty and Johnson on the same pairing.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:47:36 PM
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Scribe: Make that four.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:45:26 PM
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Scribe: CBJ has just three shots on goal...all in the first period.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:45:13 PM
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Scribe: Don Henderson.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:44:25 PM
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Scribe: Looks like one of the linesmen got cut...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:44:10 PM
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Scribe: vbing: almost.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:42:15 PM
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vbing: We might have to give up that 7th round pick if this keeps up! ;-)
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:41:47 PM
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vbing: That goal is pretty much the same goal that Freddy scored on Saturday.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:41:23 PM
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Scribe: 5. LOS ANGELES. Fredrik Modin 4 (Frolov, Jones), 4:20 POWER PLAY
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:41:17 PM
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esaki: Save some for Wednesday!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:41:02 PM
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kingsforlife: Hmm, not bad for a conditional 7th.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:40:37 PM
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kingfan_98: w0000000000000000000000000000000t!!!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:40:23 PM
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Scribe: Modin!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:40:03 PM
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Scribe: Not that it seems to matter to them... :P
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:39:23 PM
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Scribe: Kings on the PP again.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:38:51 PM
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Scribe: CBJ is going to kill the major penalty. Kings really didn't get any good chances at all.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:36:23 PM
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Scribe: I don't see the jump for the Kings now.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:35:55 PM
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Scribe: 2nd period underway.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:35:12 PM
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lowdrive: I broughtmy brother in law to the game. I said watch number 8 he is our (doughty scores)...yeah..that.. :)
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:26:49 PM
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notko1: you know what else is great, Redondo Beach. Sigh
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:25:15 PM
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notko1: accustat, they just don't have a lot of talent
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:22:08 PM
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notko1: I can't wait till it gets warm again just so i don't have to see those dumb asses at Big Bear, Big Bear is pretty great though
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:21:43 PM
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Scribe: vbing: he could blame more than Voracek!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:18:54 PM
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accustat: columbus made a mistake in firing hitch. that new coach coupled with their record and what ive seen thus far....they look like shit. the replacement coach has "total douche" alll over his forehead
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:18:17 PM
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vbing: Hmm, Jim is blaming Voracek for Doughty's goal ...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:17:59 PM
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Scribe: esaki: yeah, I know. But they still mostly suck on the power play.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:16:36 PM
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esaki: They're still rolling four lines on this power play, I don't think there's a whole lot of urgency to score here.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:15:53 PM
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esaki: Heh, they do have two power play goals tonight Scribe.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:15:24 PM
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Scribe: I swear...they suck on the power play.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:15:01 PM
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Scribe: Scoring change: 3. LOS ANGELES. Handzus 16 (Anze Kopitar, Ryan Smyth), 14:38 POWER PLAY
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:14:37 PM
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Scribe: If only officials would make that call (hitting from behind major) every time in similar situations...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:14:12 PM
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esaki: CBJ have been pretty cheap all night, even when it was 0-0...maybe they're still pissed about Chimera even though he's gone now, maybe they just recognize they suck now, who knows.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:13:43 PM
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notko1: Kings need to be careful, Jackets have some guys who can hurt you
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:13:17 PM
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Scribe: You know, it would be just like the Kings to get complacent now.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:13:13 PM
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kingfan_98: we got a nice head start, i want a snowman
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:13:02 PM
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esaki: Ugly play. Not sure what that was supposed to accomplish. Glad Clune is ok.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:12:55 PM
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kingfan_98: dang. this are maybe gonna get ugly here
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:12:40 PM
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Scribe: CBJ: Blunden (hitting from behind major, game misconduct), 16:24
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:12:05 PM
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Scribe: Cheap shot.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:11:13 PM
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notko1: Jackets doing a Thrashers impersonation, made the playoffs now garbage again
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:10:50 PM
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Scribe: Can't blame Mason for the 4-0 deficit, but it was time for a change...to wake up the CBJ skaters.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:10:26 PM
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Scribe: Garon in at 15:19.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:09:50 PM
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Scribe: 4. LOS ANGELES. Frolov 16 (Randy Jones, Jack Johnson), 15:19 POWER PLAY
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:09:37 PM
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kingfan_98: ok, kings showed up for this period, so for tonight at least, no bitching :0P
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:09:30 PM
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Scribe: 3. LOS ANGELES. Handzus 16 (Anze Kopitar), 14:38 POWER PLAY
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:09:00 PM
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vbing: Like I said, Fro is looking like he wants to stay ...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:08:48 PM
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kingfan_98: mason is absolutely shell-shocked. i almost feel sorry for the guy. wait. no i don't.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:08:38 PM
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Scribe: And here it comes...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:08:11 PM
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kingfan_98: afroooooooooooo!!!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:08:01 PM
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Scribe: Jeez...4-0. Time to pull Mason. Not his fault, really, but time to pull him.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:07:53 PM
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kingfan_98: and still another 2 minutes on the pp
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:07:37 PM
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vbing: Wow, Mason looked like Bill Buckner there ...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:07:29 PM
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kingfan_98: zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus!!!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:06:40 PM
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Scribe: How did that go in? Did Mason knock it in with his glove?
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:06:21 PM
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notko1: Doughty is starting to get a little Bernie Nicholls in him with his celebrations
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:05:39 PM
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vbing: C-bus has got a lot of work to do if it wants to get Seguin or Hall on their summer visit to LA ....
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:04:38 PM
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Scribe: CBJ: Nash (double minor, high sticking), 14:01
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:03:59 PM
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Scribe: 2. LOS ANGELES. Drew Doughty 13 (Michal Handzus, Alexander Frolov), 13:24
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:03:22 PM
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Scribe: Awful coverage by the Blue Jackets. Standing around, focused on the puck. Three players deep, one guy standing along the right wing boards, watching....
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:02:42 PM
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kingfan_98: nice call out, esaki. can you try that on a couple other players?
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:02:22 PM
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kingfan_98: w000000000000000t!!!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:02:01 PM
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esaki: Of course, Phil Housley could do that from time to time.....
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:01:58 PM
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Scribe: Doughty!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:01:41 PM
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esaki: Neither Nick Nickson nor Steve Mason is as good an announcer as Bob Miller. Miller has looked like a better goaltender than Mason at times this season.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:01:08 PM
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Scribe: CBJ: Commodore; LA: Simmonds (roughing), 11:33
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:00:25 PM
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esaki: Doughty came back from the Olympics and decided he was Phil Housley. I don't like the new Drew Doughty.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:00:14 PM
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Scribe: They wasted that power play.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:56:49 PM
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Scribe: Nice play by Stoll to break up that 2-on-1, but really sloppy play by Doughty there.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:56:00 PM
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notko1: that was almost disaster
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:55:32 PM
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notko1: would have been like the midgets goal against minnesota
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:55:14 PM
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notko1: Man Brown almost buried that
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:54:34 PM
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Scribe: CBJ: Tyutin (slashing), 8:53
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:54:28 PM
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vbing: esaki, do you mean Mason or Nickson isn't Miller ;-)
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:52:48 PM
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vbing: fwiw, I am watching at home and was surprised to see that Frolov actually did an interview and pretty much looked happy doing it. I am actually thinking that maybe he really wants to stay in LA and is trying to take more of a leadership role ... Perhaps the snub by the Russian Olympic team made him think that the Kontinental League may not be such a good idea.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:52:20 PM
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Scribe: Nice play.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:52:15 PM
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esaki: Great goal because Mason has looked pretty good so far. Nickson has been fantastic so far. He's not Miller, but who is?
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:50:58 PM
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Scribe: 1. LOS ANGELES. Wayne Simmonds 15 (Fredrik Modin, Rob Scuderi), 5:49
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:49:44 PM
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vbing: Wow, last year's Calder Trophy winner ...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:49:31 PM
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Scribe: That was a horrid clearing pass by Modin. Kings got REALLY lucky there.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:49:09 PM
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esaki: Beauty. Simmonds is money from that spot.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:48:54 PM
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kingfan_98: w00000000000000t!!!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:48:45 PM
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Scribe: Simmonds!
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:48:25 PM
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Scribe: So how's Nick doing on TV?
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:48:07 PM
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kingfan_98: esaki: for sure, we're spoiled. but i really miss the bob/nick combo, that was the best ever. no offense to jim, who does a more than adequate job...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:45:27 PM
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Scribe: esaki: neener neener? :-)
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:42:56 PM
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esaki: For those of us who live outside of LA, it is *great* to hear Nick Nickson again. One of the best. And before vbing points it out, yes, I see Zeus out there against Nash. :)
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:40:53 PM
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Scribe: We are underway.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:39:27 PM
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kingfan_98: sopcast (ie only) feed here:
www.kilonetsports.com
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:39:06 PM
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kingfan_98: ie only stream here:
vexcast.com
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:38:24 PM
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kingfan_98: stream for tonight's game:
www.justin.tv
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:37:30 PM
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Scribe: Mason and Quick in goal.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:35:18 PM
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Scribe: puck: probably azking. :D
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:29:30 PM
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Scribe: Scratches: CBJ: Kristian Huselius; LA: Davis Drewiske, Peter Harrold, Raitis Ivanans.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:28:58 PM
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Scribe: Referees: Chris Lee, Dan O'Halloran; Linesmen: Don Henderson, Thor Nelson
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:03:13 PM
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Scribe: Greetings from Staples Center.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 5:18:44 PM
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esaki: BTW, just to show I am not all criticism, were I Terry Murray, (1) I would start breathing through my nose when on camera, and (2) my top 9 would be Smyth-Kopitar-Halpern, Richardson-Stoll-Brown, and Frolov-Handzus-Simmonds, and I would play them together for more than a period or two. Maybe I'm no smarter than Murray in that respect, but then again, I really shouldn't be, I practice law for a living.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 4:35:25 PM
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esaki: I don't get your question at all. I'm sorry.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 4:31:54 PM
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vbing: esaki, Murray has said that he wants Kopitar to play in all situations. In the Eastern Conference, it is more common to match top lines than it is in the Western Conference. The issue is that if you are behind in a game, are you going to not play your first line because you feel that you have to play a checking line to prevent the other team from scoring?
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 4:30:31 PM
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esaki: Well, assuming your analysis is correct about why matching top lines is a smart move (and I've never seen Murray say such a thing, so I assume this is conjecture unless you've heard this elsewhere), then he's trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist, seeing as Kopitar nearly always sees the other team's checking line when the other team has last change. What's next, working on Drewiske's faceoff skills, just in case a rogue linesman throws the other four guys out of the circle?
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 4:26:10 PM
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pucknfuss: geez this state is run by morons, chp officers ulling in 127k IN OVERTIME, wtf ? Who is managing this madhouse?
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 4:19:08 PM
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kingfan_98: hahahaha. fresh off our layoff/ot/work furlough kerfluffle from the other day, look at this little gem that came out today, from the staunch right-wing bastion that is the l.a. times:
articles.latimes.com
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 4:09:35 PM
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kingsforlife: Personally, I'm not satisfied with the team playing 1/2 - 2/3 of a good game, even if it does result in wins. There's no excuse not to have the killer instinct and play with the heart the ENTIRE game. They are professionals and getting paid millions of dollars to do so. The whole "come from behind" thing is cute when it happens but that's not a recipe for success when it comes to playoff hockey.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 1:54:07 PM
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vbing: Also, maybe Doughty doesn't learn as much as Johnson, but Johnson does learn from Doughty. And I don't care how good you are - you learn from every situation you are in. The greatest problem to overcome is becoming over-comfortable with your situation. Personally, one of the biggest things that Kopitar has to overcome is that when he was the star player for Slovenia, everything revolved around him, and he probably wasn't expected to play much defence. We have seen in the NHL that he has had to learn to be better without the puck and has had to improve his defensive play. It's not just about talent, it's about game situations, and playing with an assortment of players is going to give him more of an understanding. That said, much of the conversation was that the lines should be set with Kopi centering Simmonds and Richardson in this current lineup. That does not seem to be an optimum pair of wingers for Kopi.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 1:39:14 PM
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vbing: fwiw, esaki, TM is pairing 1 against 1. He is trying to make Kopitar a complete two-way player, that way he doesn't have to be as concerned when he is on the road and doesn't have last change.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 1:34:10 PM
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vbing: That of course, doesn't mention the number of come from behind wins that the team has also won.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 1:32:58 PM
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vbing: azking, if you want to give Murray credit for the slow starts, you also have to give him credit for kicking their butts and getting them to play well in the 3rd. This is a team that is 3/4 of the way through the season and has yet to give up a game when leading going into the 3rd. I can put up with the slow starts if they are guaranteed a win going into the third.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 1:32:26 PM
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esaki: If this team is a 7-8 seed next year, then people are going to get fired. Lots of people. Or it means Kopitar got hit by a bus. Either way.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 1:28:55 PM
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kingsrule: But I think we will have to agree to disagree on the level of play. Next year, minus any large defections, will tell us if this is a fluke or not. If we can achieve similar or better results next year I will gladly eat crow. My feeling is you will see a slight regression to the level I think we are, which is more like the 7-8 seed. Actually if they keep playing like this they may make me right this season...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 1:09:28 PM
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kingsrule: Naturallawyer: That line up you mentioned below seems optimal to me. Most agree that the first and third lines go back to tha arrangement, and personally I think Richardson speed is what the Stoll/Brown line is missing. I'm ok playing both of the new guys on the fourth line with clune or parse or anyone else.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 1:04:12 PM
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notko1: This is a good team with flaws just like the other good teams in the NHL. There is not a team in the league that they cannot play with. The last time this team was in the playoffs they had to play the Colorado's and Detroits in the first round and you had to hide under the couch when the other team entered the zone because it would be a quick 2-0 in the first
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 12:46:32 PM
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naturallawyer: kr: they are exceeding our expectations, yes, but they are not playing "over their heads" in the sense that they have a lack of talent and are just getting the benefit of a beneficial schedule or a poor division. The Kings deserve the record they have. I think the biggest difference between last year and this year is that Quick is playing solidly all year long rather than starting mid-season like he did last year. Quick isn't a bad goaltender playing well. He is what he is. Very athletic, can steal a game, but questionable puck handling, and he allows some soft goals, leading to a low save% and very few shutouts. Despite his shortcomings, Quick has proved that he can be huge in very clutch situations, coming up with a big save late in the game, etc. That kind of stuff lifts a team and encourages the teammates to get it done.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 12:36:04 PM
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notko1: kingsrule, young teams get better and Smyth and Scuderi have helped. The Blackhawks went from a bad team to a good team last year because their young players got better not because they added Huet and Campbell
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 12:32:38 PM
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naturallawyer: TM confirms that he will play Williams with Smyth and Kopi upon Williams' return (how could he not?). That should restore some order to the lower lines as well. I would think Richie-Stoll-Brown and Fro-Zeus-Simmonds would work best, with Modin a potential replacement for the above wingers if he continues to be a big net presence.
www.lakingsnetwork.com
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 12:25:50 PM
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kingsrule: esaki: I disagree that this team is not playing over there heads. I don't see Smyth and Scuderi the only real changes from last years team, which sucked ass, improving us that much. Yes the youngsters are a year older and maybe better, and yes we needed some veteran leadership, but that means you thought we were playoff material after training camp. I thought playoffs were a maybe if we squeezed in at 8, before the first game. After the first game I was thinking lottery pick, cuz they looked like shit. Cooke is a douche, at least 6 times this year I watched that hit Brownie put on him in Vancouver a few years back, good times.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 11:18:14 AM
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ericd: my turn to be off to work... good luck to them tonight...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 9:51:49 AM
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ericd: esaki - your gonna gripe tomorrow win or loose, so dont try that one on... heh...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 9:48:59 AM
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ericd: Vbing - re Loktionov - think he is a special case as he was called up, injured pretty much straight away so long term injured reserve, would think he would not count to the callup count if (when) he is sent back to MAnchester... the nice thing from his point of veiw (if anything nice being injured..) is that he has been drawing his NHL salary all this time...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 9:48:05 AM
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azking: Matt Cooke, another guy who is just a garbage player who doesn't do much of anything well. Just another guy who has a reputation for dirty hits and is a great example why hockey will continue to be a league without a clue sometimes. I love how this just keeps happening but Bettman and his Daisychain rimjob buddies just ignore it. What it will take is a guy being paralyzed or dying and then it will be addressed. I'm sorry, the hit was bullshit and to see a troll like Cooke make light of it like he was just finishing a check shows me that these dolts have no intention of stopping. It was bad at the time but a certain part of me was happy when Ulf Sammuelsson years ago was cold-cocked by Tie Domi and knocked the fuck out after years of messing up other players and just skating away. Everyone at the time said it was wrong(which it was) but most also said the tool deserved it.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 8:33:55 AM
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azking: A team coming out flat is always, always, always going to be put at the feet of the coaches. Winners usually take the blame for it. Murray, due to his position on the team is responsible for having his team ready and fired up. This team has probably slept through the first period in half it's games. I also agree in that this team is a bit past the teaching point. I mean the youngest guy making an impact is Doughty and he already has shown that he is probably past needing to have his hand held. They are young but most aren't green anymore. Anything they will learn in terms of playoff hockey is more likely to come on the ice from the vets who have been there than from Murray. So we can agree on Murray being a wonderful teacher but is there at least some criticism allowed here for his line jacking and inability to have his teams ready on a consistent basis?
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:52:38 AM
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esaki: And on point two, for those interested in the topic, I highly recommend this book and the various derivatives thereof, which is written for a business audience but used a great deal of sports science in its development....development of one's strengths often is far more productive to said person than developing one's weaknesses...to my knowledge, the authors have not made any public statements about Nazism. And yes, that hit on Savard was disgusting, but par for the course these days.
www.amazon.com
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:48:41 AM
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kingsforlife: BTW, Cooke should get a heavy suspension for that gnarly hit on Savard.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:41:48 AM
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esaki: So, I think he is a hindrance, and I think this team deserves better, because I think this team is genuinely talented (they're not playing above their heads) and would be even better if well-managed. In fact, in light of the job he's done this season with an absolutely lousy roster, it's not a stretch to think Mark Morris would be a much better fit, especially if the goal is player development. Ok, let's kick some Blue Jacket ass tonight so I'm not gripping on Wednesday.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:38:05 AM
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esaki: (3) My issues with Murray extend beyond just him being a "line combination spaz"...I think his in-game management is terrible, teams routinely get the pairings they want against the Kings, even at home, unless he is intentionally trying to pair 1s vs. 1s which would be hilarious if true...his motivational skills are questionable, and while I'm not in the dressing room and can't attest to whose fault it might be, it can't all be Dustin Brown's fault that this team comes out flat far too often for a young team...and people talk about this defensive structure he's imposed, and maybe that was the case last year, but I don't see that at all this season...if anything, these guys play far too up-tempo for their talent level...they were pretty much sending three forecheckers all night against Montreal...if the goal is to counterattack, then God bless, but we're a long way from Tippett, Demers, or McLellan (who plays up-tempo) in terms of a structured system here.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:36:26 AM
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esaki: (2) I recognize this is a philosophical difference, but I don't think making 21+-year-olds play in unfamiliar situations over and over and over again is all that great of a learning tool...these guys aren't teenagers...to wit, Kopitar is not going to learn anything by having two wingers with similar games
bumping into each other, Doughty is not going to learn anything by having to cover for Johnson, etc...from a pure pedagogy standpoint, what Murray should be doing is putting his players in a position to be successful and letting them learn within that structure, which he regrettably does not do on a regular basis...btw, with the additions of Halpern and Modin and sitting Drewiske in favor of Jones, this team isn't as young as you think...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:33:39 AM
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esaki: (1) I bet if you backed out Loktionov, who shouldn't count, the Kings would be at or near the bottom of the league in man-games lost this season, or at least they
were the last time I saw a count...
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:32:42 AM
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esaki: Some quick things, as I appreciate vbing's responses (want to give us an update on Breakfast with the GM other than the lack of a decent breakfast?), but am tied up until gametime....
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:31:53 AM
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htxt: I think Williams gets another report from the doctor today, and that will dictate whether he's day-to-day and just working on getting his conditioning and timing back for a return.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:14:24 AM
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vbing: btw, Williams was skating and participating in the practice yesterday. Still wearing a yellow jersey that the 4th liners were wearing, but he was taking part in drills.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 7:03:50 AM
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notko1: like esaki mentioned a few months ago. Its good we have time to bitch about line combos, 6th defenseman and coaching. Beats the hell out of wondering if we will get 28th, 29th or 30th in the standings
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:46:50 AM
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azking: All good points and are noted.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:27:56 AM
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vbing: btw, an interesting thing that came up at the Breakfast was that after the trade deadline, a team can only have 4 callups unless there is an emergency situation. That explains why Cliche was brought up - to get a look before that restriction. fwiw, they said something about Loktionov being a weird situation with that issue, as well as saying that they have already used 1 callup (for Parse according to Rich).
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:17:01 AM
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vbing: Because of this, a coach has to make sure that guys are ALL comfortable playing with one another at any time during the game, and that means trying some combinations ahead of time, rather than waiting until you are forced into it. I will admit that at this time of the season, this part should be reducing, because you would hope that most players would feel pretty comfortable in any combination after playing together for a lot of the season.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:14:47 AM
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vbing:
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:12:56 AM
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vbing: Finally, with changes on the fly, you are going to see guys playing with other guys during line changes. When you use specific players for PP and PK, you are going to have to juggle lines after special teams play. I see people complaining about juggling lines immediately after a series of special teams play not seemingly realizing that you can't ice the set lines because a couple of the guys on the line just got off of special teams play.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:12:44 AM
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vbing: It's the same thing with Doughty and Jack. TM is starting to pair them together to make them the power combo on the blueline, but they (especially Jack) aren't really there yet. Additionally, although you may pair them together in critical situations (like trying to get a tying goal), it is not that likely that you will end up using them together simply because you are trying to balance out the blueline. Still, you need to get them playing together to build some chemistry, rather than just throwing them out there when you need that extra offence so you move them around during the game to get them playing time together.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:10:32 AM
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vbing: Secondly, as DL showed in his charts yesterday, one of the primary motivations for this team is to maximize its players' talents. Don't forget that these guys still have room to improve. Moving players around helps them to round out their game - give them opportunities to perform in situations that they aren't necessarily going to get when slotted in to a specific line or role. Even for Kopi, playing with guys of different talent levels will help him develop his game, as he has to take on different responsibilities. I think this is what DL talks about when he talks about how this is still a developing team - many of these kids still need to learn about how good they can become and how their game will still mature. The Richie example is probably the best - with set lines, does Richie get the extra spark that we have seen? Most of you here would have slotted him as a 4h liner, and yet due to TM's juggling, we can see that there is a bit more there than we expected.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:06:44 AM
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vbing: I think that there are a couple of factors here with the line switching. First and foremost, there are the injuries to Williams and Smyth through the season. It is pretty obvious that TM wants the first line to be Kopi/Smyth/Williams. With Williams out, that means the juggling for all the other spots starts happening. Sure Simmonds and Richardson can be effective for a while on the first line, but are they really suited to be first line players, especially at this point in their careers? I don't really think so.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 6:01:27 AM
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Grinder: Actually, I think Brown was at his best this season with Smyth and Stoll. He actually utilized his linemates during that stretch of games.
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 4:51:34 AM
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Grinder: kc: Possibly if you don't include Loktionov's injury, I don't believe the Kings have experienced as high a number for "man games lost" this season as in past recent seasons. Does anybody know what the current number is?
Monday Mar 08, 2010 - 4:48:34 AM
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kingscast: So Terry Murray is a bad coach because of his constant line changes? I haven't seen much consistency in scoring from any line outside of Smyth-Kopitar-Williams for any sustained period. To me, the changes are a product of the insane man-games lost to injury. If Murray gets the Kings to the playoffs, he deserves a Jack Adams nomination (though he shouldn't win).
Sunday Mar 07, 2010 - 11:14:28 PM
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kingsforlife: No matter what system is played, each player has their own specific tendencies that requires adaptation from their linemates. This is why some consistency in lines is crucial.
Sunday Mar 07, 2010 - 10:34:09 PM
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lowdrive: oldtimer: True, anyone should be able to play on any line. Still, most players seem to prefer playing with the same folks on their line. They start to recognize and anticipate where their line mates will go in a cycle, to expect passes in certain situations, etc. These aren't interchangeable units of hockey player or a play station simulation.
Sunday Mar 07, 2010 - 9:17:10 PM
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