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naturallawyer: pnf: when Carolina won the Cup they had no legacy of winning either. The Kings have been the talk of the hockey media (even NHL Live, which is based in NY) for their youth and winning future, not to mention Doughty already making the olympics. But you are right about the family thing in general. Even so, if it was really just a family thing, he doesn't have to move permanently. It's a six week trip, then playoffs which are broken up by rest days. He can play out his rental time with the Kings, show he's still got the goods in the playoffs, and then sign a huge contract somewhere that he wants to be (if you perform really well in the playoffs, you get a good contract just about every time). If he doesn't want to be with the Kings long-term, he doesn't have to.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 3:09:47 PM
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kingsforlife: I can't blame the players for wanting NTC's. I blame the GMs for giving it to them. If they want the player bad enough to offer them an NTC as an enticement to sign for their team, they better be willing to live with the consequences of honoring the NTC.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 3:07:11 PM
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pucknfuss: and nobody makes a GM give a no trade contract. It is a good bone to throw someone you are commiting to. If the dude is single like paul kariya, I cant imagine he asks for one
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 2:55:30 PM
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pucknfuss: az, folks on the east coast are not as high on this team as some of the die-hards here. There is absolutely no legacy of winning and he would either have to move his family or hardly ever see them. That is a decision anyone with a family can understand
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 2:53:52 PM
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azking: No Trade Clauses are a fucking joke and should be banned from the next CBA. They do nothing but handcuff teams.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 2:47:10 PM
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azking: Esaki, problem is that he doesn't have that choice so he can go stick a rod up his ass if he would rather be a shit-eater on a horrible team than go play for a team with energy and a future. I have no respect for guys that have an attitude of "Me First" which is what I see here. Who wouldn't want to be a vet influence on a team like the Kings that are rolling right now?
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 2:46:14 PM
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kings#7: Whitney would be great on the second line. A playmaker/Scorer to go along with Stoll and Brown
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 2:43:28 PM
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esaki: Whitney's a good player and a good character guy. He's not a pussy. He just would rather play in Pittsburgh than here. His loss.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 2:01:47 PM
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lowdrive: az: but, you haven't labeled him as any sort of excrement yet..
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:49:44 PM
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notko1: I wouldn't give anyone over 35 a no trade clause. Rutherford's fault on that one.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:40:10 PM
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azking: My feelings are that Whitney could be a pussy.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:39:08 PM
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kingscast: azking: What's even more interesting here with Whitney is that he would be heading to a Los Angeles team that is similar the Carolina team that won the Cup (no, we're not winning the Cup). F him.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:35:42 PM
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azking: This is a quote from Wallin(San Jose trade) showing he has a set of balls and is a real man: "This is like winning the lottery," Wallin said. "You get to play on a team that obviously has a chance to go all the way. I've been there and there's nothing like it. This team has every tool to do it."
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:30:38 PM
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azking: Don't give me this pussy "I don't want to uproot my family" shit either. You are a professional athlete. It comes with the job, fucknut.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:29:04 PM
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azking: I think Whitney is making it obvious that he has no interest in coming out here and by having some ridiculous 3 year demand, he essentially prices himself out of the market and instead of looking like a prick, he detours the scrutiny. Really interesting in that it shows that Whitney may be more of a fucking loser than wanting a legit shot at winning. Why else would he want to stay on some dogshit Carolina team and miss any playoff action at his age? Dude, you are 37, you only have a few more shots at this and it won't happen in Carolina.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:28:20 PM
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Scribe: KFL: Do I have to kick you in the nuts again? :P
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:21:06 PM
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Scribe: notko: heh more like e1,000,000. Already happened.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:20:49 PM
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kingsforlife: Scribe IS Eklund (s100/e100).
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:06:43 PM
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notko1: Scribe leaving Hockeytalk.biz (e5)
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:00:54 PM
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Scribe: peklund rocks. eklund is a tool.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 12:59:22 PM
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kingleberry: got $500 riding on the sharks over the leafs tonight
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 12:52:24 PM
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kingleberry: BWAHAHA
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 12:51:52 PM
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kingscast: Finally. Something new from Peklund: "I am hearing a 3 way trade rumour which could be happening in 20 minutes. I will read what Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger say and then rip it off as my own. You know, what I always do. The deal looks like this...The Flyers get Halak, Cammalleri and a 1st...The Leafs get Briere, Emery and Mara. The Habs get Phaneuf, Richards and Pronger. This could make the Flyers instant Cup favourites in the East. No one in the East wants to even think of playing the Flyers in the playoffs because we all know that no one can beat the Caps in a 7 game series except for the Vancouver Canucks. Folks, the Calgary Flames are SCARY GOOD so look out for them leading up until the Olympics. I am hearing that Sutter has a couple more trades up his sleeve. Including Iginla possibly going to the Leafs for Colton Orr. Do not stay tuned...P3" More after the jump.
peklundthephoneyhockeyblogger.blogspot.com
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 12:26:16 PM
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kingsforlife: The more I think about it, the more I think Torres would be a nice fit for a playoff run this season, particularly if they can't get Whitney to come back down to Earth and take a 1 or 2 year deal. He's got a $2.2M cap hit and is a UFA after this year. He could be a nice addition going forward.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 12:10:30 PM
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kingsforlife: Nice article on the Kings following the Kovy signing.
sports.espn.go.com
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 12:07:16 PM
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vbing: Looks like the Shark deal for Wallin finally went through. Wallin and a 5th for a 2nd. That should mean that DL can pick up a decent dman for a pick.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 12:02:44 PM
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esaki: Gainey quit in Montreal. That's too bad. A well-run Habs would be a bad thing.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 11:53:12 AM
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stephan: at least the kings are #4 in the espn rankings, that dude from tsn must be high!!!
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 11:09:16 AM
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Scribe: Technically, the quotes were not taken from Hammond. The ESPN writer was in the scrum interviews after Saturday's game with the rest of us, so he got the quotes himself.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 11:09:04 AM
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kingsforlife: Apparently, Tollefson has cleared waivers.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 11:03:02 AM
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vbing: Also, nice to see that an ESPN writer is showing interest in the Kings and is saying that he will be providing reports from before and after tonights game.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 9:47:39 AM
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vbing: Love it in the Zeus article when Frolov is quoted as saying "He's a big strong dude, you know?" C'mon Fro, you know you love SoCal, DUDE. Don't go leaving town to chase a bigger contract.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 9:43:23 AM
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kingsforlife: vbing: I understand. Trust me, I put little value in these rankings. I just post and criticize it because it's fun. :)
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 9:34:20 AM
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vbing: kfl, like I mentioned before, these are fantasy rankings. They give higher precedence to when star players score and don't reward teams that have distributed scoring.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 9:31:44 AM
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kingsforlife: nl: Whoops. Good call on the Kings getting moved down. I mean, they had to come back in a few games lately; that means they are obviously garbage.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 9:10:46 AM
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naturallawyer: Handuz got some nice pub from ESPN. The second half of the article has a lot of quotes from other players on making the playoffs. Some of them are from Hammond's site, but there are some I hadn't seen before (or at least, I don't remember them).
sports.espn.go.com
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 9:07:23 AM
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Wolfie: ..Kyosti Karjalainen was swedish, not finnish..
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 9:02:18 AM
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naturallawyer: ...when the Kings get moved down to 10th. :-)
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 8:54:28 AM
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naturallawyer: kfl: those rankings are dated Feb. 1. Let's see what happens later today...
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 8:53:50 AM
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kingsforlife: Alright, so the Kings have moved up to 8 in TSN's latest power rankings. Above the Kings, at 7, are the Avs, who have 5 less points and are 6-4 in their last ten games. At 6 are the Devils, who are 4-5-1 in their last ten (but who recently acquired Kovy). At 5 are the Sabres who are 2-7-1 in their last ten and are on a 4 game losing streak; somehow this deserved a jump from 6 to 5.
tsn.ca
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 7:49:06 AM
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esaki: Goodbye, Finnish Rose. I'll remember you more fondly than I do Kyosti Karjalainen.
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 4:43:10 AM
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Scribe: Los Angeles Kings: Brad Richardson And Wayne Simmonds Are Quite The Surprise...
frozenroyalty.net
Monday Feb 08, 2010 - 1:55:07 AM
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ericd: now this is the kings as I remember them... and Rogie was awesome... SAVE by Vachon... yah...
www.youtube.com
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 11:00:37 PM
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notko1: Kai Nurminen > Esa Pirnes > Mikko Eloranta > old Ilkka Sinasalo
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 10:06:07 PM
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notko1: Kai Nurminen, a bright spot on a dreadful team. He was like a candle in the wind
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 10:03:14 PM
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esaki: The guy wearing the Kai Nurminen jersey might actually have been Kai Nurminen.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 7:06:01 PM
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Scribe: Grinder: Kai Nurminen? Who was dumb enough to buy a Nurminen jersey?
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 6:51:53 PM
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lowdrive: Scribe: My mom says Vachon was a better goalie than quick, who she says looks like he's 13. =)
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 6:27:27 PM
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Grinder: The Kings' winning streak is bringing back fans wearing older Kings jerseys. Yesterday I saw Rychel and Nurminen jerseys in the 300 level concourses. ;-)
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 6:23:58 PM
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naturallawyer: I recall Buccigross telling us at hockey fest that he would pick the Kings to make the playoffs. Then he changed his mind and his pre-season "predictions" had the Kings at ninth. For whatever reason, I remembered that and thought I'd check his predictions against the current standings. It's really, really funny... :-)
sports.espn.go.com
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 4:49:12 PM
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naturallawyer: Scribe: I certainly concede that. On the one hand, it would have been great to see all those old Kings greats. On the other hand, I've suffered enough. :-)
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 4:39:39 PM
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Scribe: Most of you never saw Vachon play for the Kings...
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 4:20:04 PM
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Grinder: Still waiting for this Super Bowl to live up to its hype - commercials and all.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 2:59:51 PM
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naturallawyer: You're absolutely right, notko, I can't remember a Kings goalie coming through with more clutch saves than Quick. Garon would make highlight-reel saves but in the same game give up a goal at the worst possible time. It says something that Quick is already about to pass the Kings' goalie record for wins in a season.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 2:59:05 PM
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naturallawyer: A great line I heard from a goalie was after a game I played in when one of the opponent's forwards said to our goalie, "you got lucky, you were saved by the post a couple times." Our goalie responded sternly, "you hit the post because the post was all I gave you to hit." I can imagine Quick thinking the same thing. :-)
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 2:56:34 PM
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notko1: Cliff, the best quality Quick has is that he makes the saves when you desperately need them. I mean I know he was saved by two posts but I he never gives you the impression he is going to blink
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 2:35:59 PM
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naturallawyer: I recall a couple months ago, several of us (myself included) commented that there was NO WAY Quick would make the US Olympic squad. It is quite amazing that he is now in the mix to start some games there. It shows you how far he's come. I think he's been well coached and he's put his game together mentally.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 2:18:11 PM
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Scribe: BTW: there was a Justin Williams sighting in the Kings dressing room after yesterday's game. I couldn't see it through his slacks, but I'm sure he was wearing a cast. Kopitar told him, "Good to see you walking again."
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 12:57:30 PM
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Scribe: KFL oops. Thanks.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 12:44:40 PM
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azking: I can see why at his age, he won't want to uproot for a year.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 12:25:19 PM
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azking: Whitney is a good 2-year guy. No way on 3.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 12:23:34 PM
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inder19: azking: Whitney rental YES, 1 year deal yes, 2 year deal :s, 3 year deal NO. I dont think he wants to come out west unless its longer term
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 11:39:57 AM
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inder19: I could see Torres as a king, I wonder what he would cost...
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 11:38:45 AM
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azking: Whitney seems like the prize right now
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 11:38:35 AM
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Grinder: Anybody wondering whether the Kings should acquire Ethan Moreau should stop wondering. He looks old, slow and worn out.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 11:02:24 AM
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azking: Why would Colorado help us?
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 10:03:55 AM
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kingsforlife: Scribe: Good article although in paragraphs 8/9 it makes it seem like you're saying Smyth was a UFA signing.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 9:40:27 AM
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vbing: Apparently, I can't paste links on the RT with an iPhone.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 9:34:34 AM
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kingfan_98: wow. sick goal. pens are owning the caps right now
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 9:31:31 AM
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vbing: Report from the Detroit Free Press. Also there is another article about Detroit's trade. Laino was as big a disappointment as Purcell and yet he brought back a dman in return Maybe Teddy can be used the same way?
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 9:30:03 AM
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kingfan_98: ha. ovi just broke the goal cam on a breakaway goal.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 9:20:16 AM
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vbing: Not much, they just did a game recap from yesterday.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 9:12:21 AM
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vbing: Not much, they just did a game recap from yesterday.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 9:12:18 AM
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naturallawyer: vbing: what did they say? I just missed it...
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 8:19:14 AM
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vbing: Kings got the lead on the NHL on NBC broadcast this morning.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 8:02:07 AM
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vbing: Talks continue with Whitney. Plus, would the Kings be interested in Svatos? Would the Avs move him to the Kings?
sports.espn.go.com
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 8:01:34 AM
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Scribe: Los Angeles Kings Are Flying High, But Are Still In Rebuild Mode...
frozenroyalty.net
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 4:28:55 AM
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Scribe: Frozen Royalty Audio And NHL Video: Michal Handzus Leads LA Kings To Record Ninth Straight Win...
frozenroyalty.net
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 4:28:41 AM
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lowdrive: to illustrate how bad the eastern conference is compared to the west..Boston has lost 10 in a row and is still 2 points out of a playoff spot. Their 57 points would be second to last in the western conference.
Sunday Feb 07, 2010 - 2:39:59 AM
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azking: Jester is a very smart man!!!
Saturday Feb 06, 2010 - 10:13:54 PM
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ericd: a five goal comeback would involve my cat giving a dirty sanchez to Lie-weekly... or butt-man kissing his stink sphincter... either would do...
Saturday Feb 06, 2010 - 9:40:05 PM
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ericd: wow, a jEsTeR sighting... musta dug his way out of the snow drifts... then again cousin Boris would feel right at home in that kind of weather...
Saturday Feb 06, 2010 - 9:38:26 PM
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ericd: feeling better...
Saturday Feb 06, 2010 - 9:37:26 PM
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